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Message 5570 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 15:23:43 UTC - in response to Message 5568.  

Did you not say once there was a faster network being given to your server?

It was.
When we move to CAMK we got 1Gbit pipe instead of (If my memory still work well) 100 or 300Mbit previously.
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Message 5571 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 15:41:17 UTC - in response to Message 5565.  
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The amount of research that will have been done during the competition is surely worth it.


Not necessarily, if a lot of people are quiting the project due to the problem, you lose in the long term. And these are the people who are crunching the whole year, instead of just 2 weeks a year.

Short term, you win maybe, but long term, you can lose a lot of users. Bad publicity if you cannot upload or download any work for weeks.

And as the saying goes: Trust (in a project) Arrives on Foot and Leaves on Horseback. It takes long to get a lot of trust, but you can loose it very, very quickly with this kind of actions.
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Message 5572 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 15:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 5569.  

In summary, calm down, wait it out, and engage with SETI Germany to determine how their competition can have a lesser impact on projects going forward.
Not announcing the project name before the sprint would be a good idea. Bunkering is just silly.
did your team let you use their krunchie program to bunker? you should ask them.
I assume that's some pathetic dig at the Scot's diet. As an American you should not poke fun, the whole world laughs at your country.
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Message 5573 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 15:54:51 UTC - in response to Message 5571.  

The amount of research that will have been done during the competition is surely worth it.


Not necessarily, if a lot of people are quiting the project due to the problem, you lose in the long term. And these are the people who are crunching the whole year, instead of just 2 weeks a year.

Short term, you win maybe, but long term, you can lose a lot of users. Bad publicity if you cannot upload or download any work for weeks.

And as the saying goes: Trust (in a project) Arrives on Foot and Leaves on Horseback. It takes long to get a lot of trust, but you can loose it very, very quickly with this kind of actions.
I doubt many people are stupid enough to leave due to short term problems.
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Message 5574 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 15:57:18 UTC - in response to Message 5573.  

The amount of research that will have been done during the competition is surely worth it.


Not necessarily, if a lot of people are quiting the project due to the problem, you lose in the long term. And these are the people who are crunching the whole year, instead of just 2 weeks a year.

Short term, you win maybe, but long term, you can lose a lot of users. Bad publicity if you cannot upload or download any work for weeks.

And as the saying goes: Trust (in a project) Arrives on Foot and Leaves on Horseback. It takes long to get a lot of trust, but you can loose it very, very quickly with this kind of actions.
I doubt many people are stupid enough to leave due to short term problems.

Not everyone who have another opinion than yours is automatically stupid...
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Message 5575 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 16:01:35 UTC - in response to Message 5574.  

I doubt many people are stupid enough to leave due to short term problems.
Not everyone who have another opinion than yours is automatically stupid...
To give up on something because it's temporarily down is very stupid.

Your childish remark just shows you up as one of those listed above.
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Message 5576 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 16:03:25 UTC - in response to Message 5572.  
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In summary, calm down, wait it out, and engage with SETI Germany to determine how their competition can have a lesser impact on projects going forward.
Not announcing the project name before the sprint would be a good idea. Bunkering is just silly.
did your team let you use their krunchie program to bunker? you should ask them.
I assume that's some pathetic dig at the Scot's diet. As an American you should not poke fun, the whole world laughs at your country.


you'd know if you read the SG Pent chat box yesterday. one of your team mates anonymously leaked it's existence. a program or service called "krunchie" for automated bunkering.

if you don't know about it, then it seems your team doesn't trust you enough yet.

weird flex on Americans though, since one of the top contributers to your team (PecosRiverM) is a red white and blue blooded Texan lol
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Message 5577 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 18:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 5543.  

With all the global firepower out there I'm shocked there isn't more projects out there to slice the pie further. Either the world has run out scientific endeavors or the importance of what we do is overstated.


There are many "problems" associated with running BOINC projects...

One needs a suitably good "project" for people to support, with clear aims and goals
One needs plenty of actual "real world tasks", in order to satisfy the demand for tasks.
One needs plenty of "bandwidth" to be able to feed that demand for tasks
One needs reliable and capacious hardware platforms on which to run the project
One needs money for admin/support staff to run the server and keep tasks flowing
One needs patience to deal with short term problems (as every project will face at some point)
(I could go on, but you get the point...)

Ticking all of these boxes (and more perhaps) is something that not every project can do...and therein lies the problem - running a BOINC project with limited appeal, off low-end hardware and with little support just doesn't work...and there are a few projects that are like this even now.

regards
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Message 5578 - Posted: 19 May 2022, 19:58:30 UTC - in response to Message 5576.  
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Howdy Ian&Steve C.

Will ya ever slow down so I can Pass or do I just need to get more Toys??

Gotta keep Moor off my Tail tho..

Edit: Maybe I can get some more of my Buddy Oz's systems??
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Message 5579 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 0:20:07 UTC

Just wanted to thank @Kryzsztof for being a great BOINC project Admin, and dealing with the sometimes chaotic nature of BOINC and BOINC crunchers.

The constant communication with participants is greatly appreciated.
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Message 5582 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 6:15:09 UTC - in response to Message 5576.  

you'd know if you read the SG Pent chat box yesterday. one of your team mates anonymously leaked it's existence. a program or service called "krunchie" for automated bunkering.
I don't do chat boxes, I'm not 13.

if you don't know about it, then it seems your team doesn't trust you enough yet.
I can bunker all by myself, and have told them so, so I doubt they felt the need to give me the program.

weird flex on Americans though,
Not really, you are the laughing stock of the world. This is an example of what we think of your intelligence:
https://youtu.be/kRh1zXFKC_o

since one of the top contributers to your team
Really? You're digging into my team now? Look, if you want a threesome just ask.

(PecosRiverM) is a red white and blue blooded Texan lol
The biggest is Polish.

And actually, it just goes to show Pecos doesn't like his own country and prefers mine.
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Message 5583 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 6:16:51 UTC - in response to Message 5577.  

With all the global firepower out there I'm shocked there isn't more projects out there to slice the pie further. Either the world has run out scientific endeavors or the importance of what we do is overstated.


There are many "problems" associated with running BOINC projects...

One needs a suitably good "project" for people to support, with clear aims and goals
One needs plenty of actual "real world tasks", in order to satisfy the demand for tasks.
One needs plenty of "bandwidth" to be able to feed that demand for tasks
One needs reliable and capacious hardware platforms on which to run the project
One needs money for admin/support staff to run the server and keep tasks flowing
One needs patience to deal with short term problems (as every project will face at some point)
(I could go on, but you get the point...)

Ticking all of these boxes (and more perhaps) is something that not every project can do...and therein lies the problem - running a BOINC project with limited appeal, off low-end hardware and with little support just doesn't work...and there are a few projects that are like this even now.

regards
Tim
Or to look at the other way, Boinc projects are for the small fry without cash. You just need an admin and a server (on top of your research staff obviously). Those with loads of money use their own hardware. LHC for example only does a small proportion on Boinc, most is done on their own systems.
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Message 5584 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 6:17:51 UTC - in response to Message 5579.  

Just wanted to thank @Kryzsztof for being a great BOINC project Admin, and dealing with the sometimes chaotic nature of BOINC and BOINC crunchers.

The constant communication with participants is greatly appreciated.
+1

Compared to Rosetta where the last contact was almost 2 years ago!
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Message 5586 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 10:42:53 UTC

To be (slightly) less childish, what is surprising is that the whole "task blocked issue" has suddenly solved very quickly for most of our crunchers (who reported it) at l'AF.

So a huge saturation of the servers finally vanished in a very short time, for what is seems.

Curious.

(I said slightly less childish ;) )
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Message 5587 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 12:24:13 UTC - in response to Message 5582.  

I don't do chat boxes, I'm not 13.


I guess you must be 13, since according to the chat logs you were in that very chat box.

but quickly turned tail when you were ridiculed for your nonsensical NPC behavior. can't take the heat I guess lol.
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Message 5588 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 12:33:02 UTC - in response to Message 5578.  

Howdy Ian&Steve C.

Will ya ever slow down so I can Pass


no such luck ;)
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Message 5590 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 15:36:46 UTC - in response to Message 5572.  

I assume that's some pathetic dig at the Scot's diet. As an American you should not poke fun, the whole world laughs at your country.


You're welcome for being able to say that in English and not German.
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Message 5591 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 15:53:09 UTC - in response to Message 5586.  

To be (slightly) less childish, what is surprising is that the whole "task blocked issue" has suddenly solved very quickly for most of our crunchers (who reported it) at l'AF.

So a huge saturation of the servers finally vanished in a very short time, for what is seems.

Curious.

(I said slightly less childish ;) )
It's not curious at all. Nobody is trying to get more work for the competitions now, just trying to send stuff back. So it's caught up.
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Message 5592 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 15:54:17 UTC - in response to Message 5587.  

I don't do chat boxes, I'm not 13.


I guess you must be 13, since according to the chat logs you were in that very chat box.

but quickly turned tail when you were ridiculed for your nonsensical NPC behavior. can't take the heat I guess lol.
No, I just couldn't be bothered with the stupid response from someone in a team who doesn't even have a loyalty to a country, but a review site! Who cares about Anandtech?!
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Message 5593 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 15:54:52 UTC - in response to Message 5588.  

Howdy Ian&Steve C.

Will ya ever slow down so I can Pass


no such luck ;)
Not fair, you should split into Ian and Steve, two accounts.
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