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Message 5182 - Posted: 23 Mar 2022, 14:37:20 UTC - in response to Message 5146.  

Currently we have nearly 600'000 WU's in progress and you finish 300'000 WU's daily!

I never seem these numbers on our project :)

Very big THANK YOU for your support for our project :)

BTW, our server is not killed by this quantity of tasks mainly because of switching to SSD's.
I can't believe there are still projects (like Milkyway) still struggling with hard disks. Hard disks are from the 20th century. Mechanical storage ROTFPMSL!
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Message 5185 - Posted: 23 Mar 2022, 19:35:58 UTC - in response to Message 5182.  

I can't believe there are still projects (like Milkyway) still struggling with hard disks. Hard disks are from the 20th century. Mechanical storage ROTFPMSL!

Are you notice, that ROTFPMSL disks works on the server since 2015 24/7? :)
I believe there is still no SSD's on the market which will last for that long with same quantity of data written... At least in 2015 was not for our budget...
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Message 5186 - Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 2:00:41 UTC

Backblaze annual failure analysis
HDDs Versus SSDs, A First Look
Look at the Average Failure Rate Tables . . . . . Rather eye-opening
Caveat is that the SSD drives have not been in use as long at the HDD's

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Message 5187 - Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 8:28:56 UTC - in response to Message 5179.  

Yes, most of the electricity used for PCs is waste heat so anyone with electric heat might well put some PCs in the lower floor and let the heat rise to fill their home.

Most of my winter heat comes from my PCs running. I don't use old hardware but the furnace does not turn on until low 20sF
I don't need any heating. 9 CPUs and 5 GPUs is enough.
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Message 5188 - Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 8:29:41 UTC - in response to Message 5180.  

Yep I do the same thing. Used to keep 4 micro PCs under my desk during the winter. A little counter productive in the summer, unfortunately. :)
Yip, I have been known to have air conditioning and Boinc running at once. I have to do something about this electricity bill.
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Message 5189 - Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 8:31:10 UTC - in response to Message 5185.  

I can't believe there are still projects (like Milkyway) still struggling with hard disks. Hard disks are from the 20th century. Mechanical storage ROTFPMSL!

Are you notice, that ROTFPMSL disks works on the server since 2015 24/7? :)
I believe there is still no SSD's on the market which will last for that long with same quantity of data written... At least in 2015 was not for our budget...
Yes they have a shorter life, but they're 50x faster, and you know precisely when they'll wear out. Mine say % life remaining.
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Message 5190 - Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 8:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 5186.  

Backblaze annual failure analysis
HDDs Versus SSDs, A First Look
Look at the Average Failure Rate Tables . . . . . Rather eye-opening
Caveat is that the SSD drives have not been in use as long at the HDD's
HDDs break without warning. SSDs tell you precisely when they will wear out. And even when they do, they just start shrinking.
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Message 5191 - Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 16:17:38 UTC - in response to Message 5189.  

Yes they have a shorter life

True
and you know precisely when they'll wear out. Mine say % life remaining.

You really believe in what it saying? :)

Every server admin know, that first error on SSD is usually also the last one.
HDD's even with broken places on surface still allow you to recover most data. Our server is a proof of this...
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Message 5192 - Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 17:40:49 UTC - in response to Message 5191.  

Yes they have a shorter life
True

and you know precisely when they'll wear out. Mine say % life remaining.
You really believe in what it saying? :)
Works for me. Yeah there are a few times when it just dies, but disks do the same.

Every server admin know, that first error on SSD is usually also the last one.
I have one with 15 errors, it says 40% life left, it works perfectly.

Anyway you bought some SSDs so you must like them :-)

They seem to be working very well for you.

HDD's even with broken places on surface still allow you to recover most data. Our server is a proof of this...
At a huge expense. And when you have RAID you don't need to recover any data.
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Message 5229 - Posted: 27 Mar 2022, 23:47:48 UTC - in response to Message 5146.  

I love doing this because I feel it is a real legacy for posterity even if a small contribution.
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Message 5247 - Posted: 12 Apr 2022, 13:44:59 UTC - in response to Message 5146.  

i have just recently started helping . i used to do seti at home years ago. i have a much better computer these days and glad to use the time to help!
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Message 5264 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 1:45:34 UTC - in response to Message 5192.  

Yes they have a shorter life
True

and you know precisely when they'll wear out. Mine say % life remaining.
You really believe in what it saying? :)
Works for me. Yeah there are a few times when it just dies, but disks do the same.

Every server admin know, that first error on SSD is usually also the last one.
I have one with 15 errors, it says 40% life left, it works perfectly.

Anyway you bought some SSDs so you must like them :-)

They seem to be working very well for you.

HDD's even with broken places on surface still allow you to recover most data. Our server is a proof of this...
At a huge expense. And when you have RAID you don't need to recover any data.

Mon serveur-1 fonctionne encore avec des disque IDE en raid1 avec des secteurs défectueux (parfois beaucoup), il n'y a pas de perte de données même lorsque l'un d’entre eux devient invisible. Il faut par contre intervenir régulièrement pour remplacer les disques définitivement perdu. peut être Linux gère cela mieux que Windung.

My server-1 still works with IDE drive in raid1 with bad sectors (sometimes many), there is no data loss even when one of them becomes invisible. However, it is necessary to intervene regularly to replace the permanently lost disks. can be Linux handles this better than Windung.

JpmGir :-)
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Message 5265 - Posted: 28 Apr 2022, 4:20:17 UTC - in response to Message 5264.  

My server-1 still works with IDE drive in raid1 with bad sectors (sometimes many), there is no data loss even when one of them becomes invisible. However, it is necessary to intervene regularly to replace the permanently lost disks. can be Linux handles this better than Windung.
I ran a Windows server at my work with RAID. If a disk failed I just slid it out and put another in. It rebuilt itself in 2 hours while 1000 people were using it.
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Message 5269 - Posted: 2 May 2022, 4:22:18 UTC - in response to Message 5146.  

Currently we have nearly 600'000 WU's in progress and you finish 300'000 WU's daily!

I never seem these numbers on our project :)

Very big THANK YOU for your support for our project :)

BTW, our server is not killed by this quantity of tasks mainly because of switching to SSD's.


600k? 300k? These numbers are about to get wrecked :D
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Message 5270 - Posted: 2 May 2022, 4:32:45 UTC - in response to Message 5269.  

Currently we have nearly 600'000 WU's in progress and you finish 300'000 WU's daily!

I never seem these numbers on our project :)

Very big THANK YOU for your support for our project :)

BTW, our server is not killed by this quantity of tasks mainly because of switching to SSD's.
600k? 300k? These numbers are about to get wrecked :D
Previously:
USA 2nd, Scotland 4th.
Now since our population is a 60th of yours, that's just not good enough. We shall prevail. FREEDOM!!!!!

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Message 5272 - Posted: 2 May 2022, 5:22:30 UTC - in response to Message 5270.  

No worries. I'm on your team this year, same as last year and the year before that!
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Message 5273 - Posted: 2 May 2022, 6:09:06 UTC - in response to Message 5272.  
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No worries. I'm on your team this year, same as last year and the year before that!
Ah, a defector!

What name are you here?
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Message 5361 - Posted: 9 May 2022, 14:33:47 UTC - in response to Message 5146.  

Hi, Krzysztof (sorry for the cross-post),

Congratulations on all the work you've been doing!

I have several Ubuntu VMs, which have been successfully processing Universe (approx 23M cobblestones) for a while. I put them onto other work for a while to up the score of some of my other projects. But now, when I switch back, I can't pick up any Universe work units, even though there are >3M available.

My original config was Ubuntu 21.xx with BOINC 7.16.x, and that ran fine for many months. That machine now doesn't pick up your work units.

As a test, I have built a new machine on Ubuntu 22.04 with BOINC 7.18.1 (the version in the repository) and, though it picks up other projects, it also tells me that there are 0 Universe work units available.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Nick
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Message 5363 - Posted: 9 May 2022, 14:49:34 UTC - in response to Message 5361.  

Hi, Krzysztof (sorry for the cross-post),

Congratulations on all the work you've been doing!

I have several Ubuntu VMs, which have been successfully processing Universe (approx 23M cobblestones) for a while. I put them onto other work for a while to up the score of some of my other projects. But now, when I switch back, I can't pick up any Universe work units, even though there are >3M available.

My original config was Ubuntu 21.xx with BOINC 7.16.x, and that ran fine for many months. That machine now doesn't pick up your work units.

As a test, I have built a new machine on Ubuntu 22.04 with BOINC 7.18.1 (the version in the repository) and, though it picks up other projects, it also tells me that there are 0 Universe work units available.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Nick

See the threads over on the Number Crunching board. It is due to the high demand from the BOINC Pentathlon.
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