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Message 4204 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 9:31:18 UTC
Last modified: 7 May 2020, 9:40:47 UTC

Since 2020-05-02 I have had problems uploading results. I do this from two different IP's (two different ips) so it's unlikely to be some weird firewall issue.

I do get new tasks in a timely maner so I don't think the server dislikes me and tries to cut me off. EDIT: As of late it seems like the downloads stalled too - but a lot later than when uploads started to fail)

It affects all my hosts, which use three different OS'es.

Everything points to the servers. Out of diskspace on the DB servers? But I get confused when I see I'm the first to report this after 5 days of problems. There is a chance that everybody else felt that "somebody else will report it", but I never the less cannot get rid of the feeling that it might be me.

This is a chunk out of the log

2020-05-07 11:10:56 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:10:57 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:11:17 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:06:33 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_407544593_20000_1-999999_545100_1_r37378835_2
2020-05-07 11:11:18 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:11:19 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:11:39 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:07:42 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_407544593_20000_1-999999_545100_1_r37378835_4
2020-05-07 11:11:40 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:11:41 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:12:18 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:12:18 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:07:47 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_407544593_20000_1-999999_545100_1_r37378835_0
2020-05-07 11:12:19 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:19:31 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:53 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_0
2020-05-07 11:19:31 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:54 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_1
2020-05-07 11:19:32 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:19:34 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:20:31 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:02:37 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_4
2020-05-07 11:20:32 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:20:33 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:20:53 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:02:44 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_5
2020-05-07 11:20:54 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:20:55 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:21:16 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:05:52 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_407544593_20000_1-999999_545100_1_r37378835_3
2020-05-07 11:21:17 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:21:18 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:21:43 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:21:43 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:07 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_3
2020-05-07 11:21:44 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:25:06 | Universe@Home | Project requested delay of 11 seconds

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Message 4205 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 9:59:27 UTC - in response to Message 4204.  

Since 2020-05-02 I have had problems uploading results. I do this from two different IP's (two different ips) so it's unlikely to be some weird firewall issue.

I do get new tasks in a timely maner so I don't think the server dislikes me and tries to cut me off. EDIT: As of late it seems like the downloads stalled too - but a lot later than when uploads started to fail)

It affects all my hosts, which use three different OS'es.

Everything points to the servers. Out of diskspace on the DB servers? But I get confused when I see I'm the first to report this after 5 days of problems. There is a chance that everybody else felt that "somebody else will report it", but I never the less cannot get rid of the feeling that it might be me.

This is a chunk out of the log

2020-05-07 11:10:56 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:10:57 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:11:17 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:06:33 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_407544593_20000_1-999999_545100_1_r37378835_2
2020-05-07 11:11:18 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:11:19 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:11:39 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:07:42 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_407544593_20000_1-999999_545100_1_r37378835_4
2020-05-07 11:11:40 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:11:41 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:12:18 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:12:18 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:07:47 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_407544593_20000_1-999999_545100_1_r37378835_0
2020-05-07 11:12:19 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:19:31 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:53 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_0
2020-05-07 11:19:31 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:54 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_1
2020-05-07 11:19:32 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:19:34 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:20:31 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:02:37 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_4
2020-05-07 11:20:32 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:20:33 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:20:53 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:02:44 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_5
2020-05-07 11:20:54 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:20:55 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:21:16 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:05:52 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_407544593_20000_1-999999_545100_1_r37378835_3
2020-05-07 11:21:17 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:21:18 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:21:43 |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2020-05-07 11:21:43 | Universe@Home | Backing off 00:03:07 on upload of universe_bh2_190723_310_503019497_20000_1-999999_20100_1_r276922426_3
2020-05-07 11:21:44 |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2020-05-07 11:25:06 | Universe@Home | Project requested delay of 11 seconds


I get the same, but only for about the last day. I think it was fine before that, as I didn't spot any tasks getting stuck. Just tried a few computers in case it was my fault.
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Message 4206 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 10:00:53 UTC - in response to Message 4204.  

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Message 4207 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 10:02:22 UTC - in response to Message 4205.  
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I get the same, but only for about the last day. I think it was fine before that, as I didn't spot any tasks getting stuck. Just tried a few computers in case it was my fault.


And just after posting that, a computer I told to update has managed to report it's completed tasks and start a download of 3 more (which is stuck). Looks like things are working sometimes. I think something is overloaded somewhere on the servers. If your computer isn't doing anything, try a manual update and it might get somewhere in 10 minutes or so.

Even this forum is slow, maybe something like the whole internet connection to the university is busted?
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Message 4208 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 10:28:44 UTC

I have the same problem. there are 12 pending uploads and cannot upload.
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Message 4211 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 11:38:15 UTC

We have 1Gb/s line shared with storage server (where results go from main server as it comes).
One ULX result is various from 4 to 50 megabytes each (BH's are small)....

Once most ULX comes back uploading/downloading will speeds up.
The problem comes with bunkered WU's as thousands of it coming simultaneously and temporary block line. This should solve itself soon.
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Message 4213 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 12:41:45 UTC

When i am not a Member of the The Scottish Boinc Team..
Do you have to pay the admins at Universe @ Home extra donations to get exclusive upload?
How many Dollars or Bitcoin i must pay for normal Upload ?
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Message 4214 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 12:45:24 UTC

From the looks of it, I have a few tens of uploads in the queue, must have been offline for at least 12 hours!
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Message 4215 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 14:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 4211.  


Once most ULX comes back uploading/downloading will speeds up.
The problem comes with bunkered WU's as thousands of it coming simultaneously and temporary block line. This should solve itself soon.


I don't think that's the full truth.
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Message 4216 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 14:31:55 UTC - in response to Message 4215.  


Once most ULX comes back uploading/downloading will speeds up.
The problem comes with bunkered WU's as thousands of it coming simultaneously and temporary block line. This should solve itself soon.


I don't think that's the full truth.


Then by all means tell us what is [rolls eyes].
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Message 4219 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 18:04:02 UTC - in response to Message 4211.  

We have 1Gb/s line shared with storage server (where results go from main server as it comes).
One ULX result is various from 4 to 50 megabytes each (BH's are small)....

Once most ULX comes back uploading/downloading will speeds up.
The problem comes with bunkered WU's as thousands of it coming simultaneously and temporary block line. This should solve itself soon.

Yes, it will solve itself - after the Pentathlon. Then all users will abort their remaining workunits they can be sent out again to the hand full of daily users over the next months.
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Message 4220 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 18:30:45 UTC - in response to Message 4219.  

We have 1Gb/s line shared with storage server (where results go from main server as it comes).
One ULX result is various from 4 to 50 megabytes each (BH's are small)....

Once most ULX comes back uploading/downloading will speeds up.
The problem comes with bunkered WU's as thousands of it coming simultaneously and temporary block line. This should solve itself soon.

Yes, it will solve itself - after the Pentathlon. Then all users will abort their remaining workunits they can be sent out again to the hand full of daily users over the next months.


I don't see the point of these Pentathlons. All they do is move people temporarily from one project to another. I doubt they get more people into Boinc in total.
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Message 4221 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 18:41:56 UTC - in response to Message 4220.  


I don't see the point of these Pentathlons. All they do is move people temporarily from one project to another. I doubt they get more people into Boinc in total.


"The point" is a friendly competition. Keeps things fresh.
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Message 4222 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 18:44:41 UTC - in response to Message 4220.  


I don't see the point of these Pentathlons. All they do is move people temporarily from one project to another. I doubt they get more people into Boinc in total.

I think you are not right. The Pentathlon generates awareness and motivates many people for more crunch power. For a short time period.
An maybe new boinc user use boinc after the race.
Beside of that it is fun. Join a team, go to their forum.
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Message 4223 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 18:54:00 UTC

Pentathlon maybe fun for some, but it is a pain for others. I was happily crunching on this project, now thanks to the Pentathlon I am no longer crunching for the project.
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I think you are not right. The Pentathlon generates awareness and motivates many people for more crunch power. For a short time period.
An maybe new boinc user use boinc after the race.
Beside of that it is fun. Join a team, go to their forum.


I'm not so sure. Don't they just attract people who are already doing Boinc? I can't see a non-Boincer spotting the pentathlon and doing it. How would they even hear about it? I run 5 Boinc projects, and have been on Boinc since it started, and I didn't know about it until it was mentioned in here.

I run Boinc to do science. Yes I do watch my stats on Boincstats, but just as an idea of how well I'm doing. Even if I was obsessed with competing, the stats are forever, not just a short period. I prefer to look at my overall position.
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Message 4225 - Posted: 7 May 2020, 18:59:11 UTC - in response to Message 4223.  

Pentathlon maybe fun for some, but it is a pain for others. I was happily crunching on this project, now thanks to the Pentathlon I am no longer crunching for the project.


Why stop? It's no big deal if occasionally you have to wait for WUs to transfer. There are always problems for some reason or another on projects, which is why all my computers have at least 2 things they can do.
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Message 4226 - Posted: 8 May 2020, 0:02:16 UTC

The Pentathlon will be over soon and everything will return to normal.
It's a bit of fun (not really a competition imo) but just a bit of fun. A competition has rules and a level playing field, these events don't have that.

I have 100's of wu's waiting for upload.
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Message 4227 - Posted: 8 May 2020, 0:11:16 UTC - in response to Message 4226.  


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Message 4229 - Posted: 8 May 2020, 2:18:43 UTC - in response to Message 4224.  


I think you are not right. The Pentathlon generates awareness and motivates many people for more crunch power. For a short time period.
An maybe new boinc user use boinc after the race.
Beside of that it is fun. Join a team, go to their forum.


I'm not so sure. Don't they just attract people who are already doing Boinc? I can't see a non-Boincer spotting the pentathlon and doing it. How would they even hear about it? I run 5 Boinc projects, and have been on Boinc since it started, and I didn't know about it until it was mentioned in here.

I run Boinc to do science. Yes I do watch my stats on Boincstats, but just as an idea of how well I'm doing. Even if I was obsessed with competing, the stats are forever, not just a short period. I prefer to look at my overall position.


This is very close minded. I began running BOINC after seeing a post on my forums looking for more members for a Formula Boinc sprint challenge. With teams looking for the top spot during the pent, many start recruiting members within their forums, websites and circles of friends. Some do the pent and then never come back, others see the interest and continue.
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