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Message 6220 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 5:42:49 UTC - in response to Message 6219.  

Most Threadrippers have a significantly lower base, and somewhat lower boost, clock speeds.
eg-
        Threadripper 3990X vs AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
Base Clock     2.9 GHz             3.8 GHz	
Boost Clock    4.3 GHz             4.6 GHz

Higher clock speed, shorter processing time. But if you have enough slower threads, then you still get more work done per hour than a higher clocked system with less cores/threads.
Which is what I thought. A threadripper should get more Asteroids done per hour than I do. And even mine is as good as Keith's GPU. Over at the political activism Einstein site, GPU work goes at least an order of magnitude faster on GPU.
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Message 6221 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 16:12:50 UTC - in response to Message 6218.  
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But then you mention the threadripper. Mine is a Ryzen 9 3900XT, not 7900. Can you link to a threadripper so I can have a look? I find it hard to believe they aren't way faster than mine.

Sorry, forgot which Ryzen you have. The #2 Top Participant is a TR 3970X Threadripper.

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/results.php?hostid=708920

Similar core count as your 3900XT - 12 cores/24 threads. He is running even faster than yours.

1900 seconds per task. NOT running hyperthreaded at 32 threads. Reported 41 tasks in the same scheduler connection. He is keeping the clock rate up at boost obviously by not running hyperthreaded.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+Threadripper+3970X&id=3623 3.7Ghz base clock.
But more likely closer to the 4.5Ghz boost clock based on the runtimes.

This host proves your point. But I assert this host in an outlier from the general population. The most common and numerous processor is some Intel cpu, probably trending toward a Xeon with their lower clock speeds and longer runtimes.

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Message 6222 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 19:24:11 UTC

All clock cycles are not equal. But all clock cycles are cumulative.

And every completed Task is the same .... Done
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Message 6223 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 22:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 6221.  
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Sorry, forgot which Ryzen you have. The #2 Top Participant is a TR 3970X Threadripper.

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/results.php?hostid=708920

Similar core count as your 3900XT - 12 cores/24 threads. He is running even faster than yours.

1900 seconds per task. NOT running hyperthreaded at 32 threads. Reported 41 tasks in the same scheduler connection. He is keeping the clock rate up at boost obviously by not running hyperthreaded.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+Threadripper+3970X&id=3623 3.7Ghz base clock.
But more likely closer to the 4.5Ghz boost clock based on the runtimes.

This host proves your point. But I assert this host in an outlier from the general population. The most common and numerous processor is some Intel cpu, probably trending toward a Xeon with their lower clock speeds and longer runtimes.
There are fast and slow CPUs, there are fast and slow GPUs. But on Asteroids, a fast CPU does as well as a fast GPU. On Einstein, a fast GPU severely outpaces a fast CPU. So it's best to put your GPU on Einstein, and your CPU on Asteroids. If a GPU can do the equivalent of 20 CPUs in Eintsein, or the equivalent of 1 CPU in Asteroids, Einstein is the obvious choice.
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Message 6224 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 22:18:47 UTC - in response to Message 6222.  

All clock cycles are not equal. But all clock cycles are cumulative.

And every completed Task is the same .... Done
Sorry I don't speak Confucius.
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Message 6225 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 0:57:02 UTC - in response to Message 6224.  

All clock cycles are not equal. But all clock cycles are cumulative.

And every completed Task is the same .... Done
Sorry I don't speak Confucius.


You might want to look at the bigger picture and consider your technique. You have a lot of knowledge to share. And with a more moderate delivery more people might gain something instead of tuning you out.
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Message 6226 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 0:58:57 UTC - in response to Message 6225.  
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You might want to look at the bigger picture and consider your technique. You have a lot of knowledge to share. And with a more moderate delivery more people might gain something instead of tuning you out.
I speak plain English, look up "northerner" in the UK. "I say what I like and I like what I bloody well say". Anyone who can't handle abrupt and to the point facts can get lost.

https://youtu.be/jY4tD2Hbg_A

And I have no idea what your riddle meant.
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Message 6227 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 1:32:52 UTC - in response to Message 6226.  

You might want to look at the bigger picture and consider your technique. You have a lot of knowledge to share. And with a more moderate delivery more people might gain something instead of tuning you out.
I speak plain English, look up "northerner" in the UK. "I say what I like and I like what I bloody well say". Anyone who can't handle abrupt and to the point facts can get lost.

https://youtu.be/jY4tD2Hbg_A

And I have no idea what your riddle meant.


Why does that not surprise me.
Does the term "bull in a china shop" ring a bell and give you an inspiration ?
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Message 6228 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 1:33:57 UTC - in response to Message 6227.  
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Why does that not surprise me.
Does the term "bull in a china shop" ring a bell and give you an inspiration ?
I thought my post would fly over your head. So you're saying I'm a big strong bull and you're all weak little fragile pieces of china, makes sense. Ah, you're an American, the country where they think "damn" and "crap" are swearwords.
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Message 6229 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 1:43:07 UTC - in response to Message 6228.  

Why does that not surprise me.
Does the term "bull in a china shop" ring a bell and give you an inspiration ?
I thought my post would fly over your head. So you're saying I'm a big strong bull and you're all weak little fragile pieces of china, makes sense. Ah, you're an American, the country where they think "damn" and "crap" are swearwords.


Oh my... you are a giggle. And well past any hope.

Back to the riddle for you.
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Message 6230 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 1:45:47 UTC - in response to Message 6229.  

Oh my... you are a giggle. And well past any hope.
Why? Because I didn't sign up for the modern softness everyone's caught?

Back to the riddle for you.
I will not play silly games.
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Message 6262 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 18:10:59 UTC

What AMD GPU's work?
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Message 6263 - Posted: 2 Sep 2023, 0:40:56 UTC - in response to Message 6262.  

What AMD GPU's work?

None. This is a cpu only project.

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Message 6378 - Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 15:02:56 UTC - in response to Message 951.  

Hope so, I've got 2x Quadro K4200 in SLI mode waiting to be used.
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Message 6379 - Posted: 19 Jan 2024, 15:30:39 UTC - in response to Message 6378.  
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Hope so, I've got 2x Quadro K4200 in SLI mode waiting to be used.
Asteroids and Einstein will use those.
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Message 6381 - Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 0:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 1077.  

Small update.

We still work on GPU version but it is very slow process...



If it would be helpful .... let the volunteer base know what areas of expertise might possibly assist in your efforts for a GPU application.


There are a lot of willing people who professionally have skills and knowledge that they would willingly give the project.


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Message 6383 - Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 16:31:52 UTC - in response to Message 6381.  

Small update.

We still work on GPU version but it is very slow process...



If it would be helpful .... let the volunteer base know what areas of expertise might possibly assist in your efforts for a GPU application.


There are a lot of willing people who professionally have skills and knowledge that they would willingly give the project.


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You know you're quoting a post from almost a decade ago right?

it's very unlikely that a GPU app will ever come out at this point.
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Message 6384 - Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 16:52:06 UTC - in response to Message 6383.  

it's very unlikely that a GPU app will ever come out at this point.
I've warned you before.
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